Reply to Alexei Sidorenko of Global Voices

I'm publishing my reply to a thoughtful challenge to my post yesterday from Moscow blog pundit and Ph.D. writer Alexei Sidorenko, because unfortunately he moderates his comments. Basically, he's pleading a special case for Russia getting to take the short bus again, and I reject that educated affluent intellectuals in a world capital need to be put on the short bus every time. I stand by my claim that social media failed to provide an alternative narrative of event of the Moscow subway bombing #metro29, and that that failure was predicated on the deplorable state of freedom for media in Russia, and raises the question of whether social media really can operate effectively in situations of blanket state control of the media, where a handful of independent and small outlets and bloggers "live on a clearly-delineated reservation".

Alexei:

I don't think it slights "a people" or "a nation"  or "the tools" to describe when they don't lead to desired results. My thesis is promoted precisely in response to misleading claims by both individual tweeters and mainstream media, that citizens' journalism "filled the gaps". It didn't. It will never fill the gaps unless we call it accurately. And that means nothing magical can happen with technical tools by themselves; they need people to operate them. And people in a context of suppressed free media do not have a magic wand out of that situation.

>First of all, words like “fail” or “win” lead us to the wrong direction. Covering tragic events is not a competition.

In the news business, covering tragic events *is* a competition. In the blogosphere, it is less so — people in theory have the space to first show solidarity to victims and organize a memorial before they brag about being first with a picture — yet we all know that's not so, and bloggers the world over *do* become competitive, and *that's ok*. No uravnilovka, please.

No, I think you have to call it accurately, to avoid the kind of hyping of social media that Evgeny Morozov is very good at debunking (but unfortunately his pessimism then leads to resignation about ever using it at all for good). My point isn't about "competition" but it is a judgement call one has to make in an environment where every time any major event occurs, there are voices loudly crying that CNN is #fail, and there are voices loudly claiming that social  media is #fullofwin. It's in *that* context of the exaggeration of online voices *already* grabbing the mindshare that I speak.

Now as to your points about what bloggers did or didn't do:

>1. Disseminated information about the event, while major websites were down or in mobile mode, and TV channels were both slow and ignorant.
2. Brought worldwide attention to the terrorist attack. #Moscow became the top Twitter hashtag.
3. Made some citizen content, which was present in the post. Pictures mostly pictures and scarce videos.

1. But Russia Today was not slow; this Kremlin-funded operation with 100 journalists sprang into action and had most of the pictures and the fastest and completely owned the narrative.

2. You've just lowered the bar, once again making Russia a special case by saying "bringing worldwide attention" is your criteria for success. Alexey, we are not in Moldova here where much of the world couldn't find it on a map. A bombing in the center of Moscow would not need citizens' media to bring it to worldwide attention. RIA Novosti, BBC, CNN would do that all on their own. We are far past the era of a subway explosion in the days of Sakharov, where the news was suppressed and dissidents like him had to question the official story. Citizens' media is asked to do *more* than merely assure a "trending topic" for a few hours.

3. Made some citizen content? That's all you're going to require of Russians as if they are in a kindergarten class with finger paints?

Why? These are educated, relatively affluent, intellectuals we're talking about, with offices and computer and home laptops, not impoverished Haitians who still manage to have cell phones to text to a relative in the U.S. Can't we ask more of this class of Russian people than a "citizen content" that doesn't ask questions? Can't we ask them to wonder if the authorities are doing enough? (After all, it's their country.) That's just my point: if you are going to lower the bar down for "citizens' journalism" merely to be a kind of Sunday-supplement or shopper style people-pleaser, what right does it have to call itself "citizen" and present itself as "better" or "alternative" when it could really be saying then, "We help the regime to do its job better with its utter control  of the media".

Sorry, but we all still have an information vaccum here. We do not have any questioning of the events — and the official response — except by fringe groups that do this anyway. In a country with free media and a free civil society, hospital administrators and doctors themselves would speak out about what they are seeing — so would police and firemen. They wouldn't wait for permission and they wouldn't get reprimanded for speaking out of turn. But in this situation, the mayor, the prosecutor and the president spoke out very early — and with no other voices then being heard, anyway, formally or informally.

There might be dozens — hundreds — of people who saw either the bombers themselve or those with them. Are they too scared to come forward? Have the police already silenced them?

We don't know why there aren't bomb sniffing dog in this subway that has been attacked five times already (we have them in NY). We don't know why trains weren't instantly closed to keep people from boarding after the first bombing. We don't know why escalators were stopped when people were trying to leave. And much more.  The story is being told by Kommersant that 30 terrorists related to this event trained in Turkey. No blogger has a thought on this? (Maybe I missed it).

To give you an example of what I mean: here, in the U.S., we had a much more minor case of political violence by contrast with your metro bombing  — a half dozen rocks thrown through windows, hate calls, death threats around the country, attacks on congress people by extremists and opportunistic vandals after the controversial health care bill was passed. When the liberal press began to publish exaggerated hysterical commentary about this signifying "domestic terrorism" (I guess they've never been in the Moscow metro), a Republican senator spoke up and said his office, too, happened to have been hit by a rifle shot. A leading blog, Daily Kos immediately jumped on this, gathering local news and police reports and brought a competing narrative: that the office wasn't the senator's main office; that the rifle may have not been aimed at his office but could have been random; in fact maybe it wasn't a case of political violence at all. That's the sort of thing I don't see here (nor an admission even that it is needed): building an alternative hypothesis based on adversarial gathering of the facts.

Now, I don't expect Russia's blogosphere to function at the level of investigative capacity, connections, and publicity as the Daily Kos.

But I'd expect just a little more spirited inquiry. And I wouldn't say that meaningless Soviet-like statistics like "Live Journal got 30 percen
t usage that day" to translate into "therefore we have a free, independent, critical blogosphere". Maybe people were trading pictures of their cats. Content *does* matter.

Kommersant isn't "citizens' journalism" — it's professional journalism, and one that has no shortage of speculation about how close it is to the authorities or not.

Now, your admission of what bloggers didn't do:

>1. Provide any other content besides videos and pics.
2. Didn’t provide any investigation/alternative theories of what happened
3. were not critical to the information they were given from the official sources.

But…That's what bloggers do. You live in a country with a fine tradition of samizdat that did just this very thing with pencil and paper and typewriters for decades. Bloggers serving as a chorus to the Kremlin aren't bloggers; they are cheerleaders and adjunct propagandists.

>1. Direct witnesses of the terrorist attacks are either dead or lie in the hospital. And I’m more than sure that for those who survived the bombings giving a Twit or updating their blog isn’t a first priority.
2. The subway stations were closed right after the bombings so there was no physical possibility to make an independent investigation. Besides that people need time for any kind of investigation.
3. You might have a wrong image of the Twitter/Blogosphere. There’s lots of retwitting, copy-pasting, fake LJ-users, spamlogs and so on. All of these things make the analysis of the RuNet pretty challenging. But it doesn’t mean, all RuNet is just a bunch of copy-pasters of Interfax, Rian and so on. No, you just have to know which bloggers to read. Especially it’s true for Twitter, where there’s lots of useless information garbage.4. Alternative theories started to appear from the first hours. I advise you to check such LJ-users as abstract2001, nl, rusanalit, alliruk, barouh, g_golosov, v_milov, grey_dolphin, shirly_noclaf – all of them were writing not about the bombings themselves but about the alternative reasons of the bombings and

1. When we see the state of the bodies directly near the blast site from the amateur videos, and when we hear police reports that the shakhidki's body parts were able to be assembled or identified and only their stomachs by their purses were blown away, we have to wonder if in fact there might be witnesses who are not dead, because the destruction, while intensive, was not so huge such as to make ceilings collapse, etc. Thousands of people streamed out of those subways alive. What are they saying now?

2. Sure, the subways are closed. But what, nobody has a brother-in-law in the police department who could talk? Nobody's next-door-neighbour in the FSB could be persuaded to say something? Nothing? This is Russia, ruled by a kind of dense web of connections to obtain favours. Not a single cop is talking?

3. No, I totally get it about the blogosphere, but I also undertand that *anyone* no matter how qualified, experienced, fluent in Russian, etc., if they are an "outsider," will be told in a debate, sooner or later, that "Russia cannot be understood with the mind." Hence the name of my blog. I disagree. Russia is not so special. Every country  has fake blogs, sock-puppets, anonymous alts, etc. It is human nature. It is the Internet. And you know how I know which bloggers to read? I read Twitter. I read Facebook. I follow links on my blog. I read and read. And I'm telling you I saw a lot of copypasta – well, maybe the one link you provided which I saw pasted, too.

4. I totally concede your point that the real action on alternative analysis in Russia is not on Twitter (yet) or Facebook, but on LJ. And I know a few but not all of those users you flagged. But let me tell you the problem with all this — it is a morass. Anyone, even armed with time, Russian, and curiosity, cannot wend their way through all these thousands of blogs, 80 percent of which are not relevant. So I realize your project is just about that — blog of blogs, drill-downs of data and analysis, etc. I'm presenting a social demand here for more aggregation, and you can take it or leave it.

This isn't about perfection. It's about an entire spirit in which an enterprise is taken. I think Michael Idov's phrase about the state of the Russian independent media and blogosphere is very apt: it is forced to live on a reservation. 

I read karpusha, and that's good, but you'd expect more reactions. Shifttsteller is also what I mean. Ok, that's two — or three. What is it about the Russian blogosphere and the intelligentsia that produces only a handul of such alternative narratives? And I don't mean that they have to rant that this is an "inside job" like the 9/11 truthers in the U.S. I mean that they attempt to assemble pieces of information and construct hypotheses and ask questions.

Let me tell you what I found eerie. I must have had 600 Live Journal Russian members hit my blog yesterday and read it, and many link it. But following the links, I found just the link. I found no debate. Except for one, I found no agreement. Except for another one, I found no disagreement. Browsing through hundreds of these blogs, I found person after person merely putting up a copypasta of Interfax, RIA-Novosti, etc. without comment. I saw half lines of response. This, from a blogosphere that can rival the works of Tolstoy when it's an issue they feel empowered to speak on, like cops taking bribes or the ban on foreign car imports or the big bosses striking down pedestrians in their big cars with impunity — all "safe" topics.

From this latest BBC story (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8594375.stm) we see the Russia media — kak ona est' — is questioning why authorities didn't do more. Are we to conclude that really, the media which is taking the form of "newpapers" and "online news agencies" of "mainstream media" are really blogs in Russia, making the blogs then merely private diaries?

Now for some examples of Russian citizen media wins — and there are enough of them so as to create a deman for more with events of greater magnitud:

The "Youtube cop" is a perfect example of successful social media usage. I don't ask that citizen journalists themselves root out corruption and make arrests or spring unlawfully detained whistle-blowers (it's that disappointment that their work doesn't immediately lead to such scores that actually makes them more cynical in Russia). Another "win" was the coverage on hro.org and Facebook of the beating of Vadim Korostylev, and the efforts to defend him. Again, it doesn't prevent his beating, but it enables the showing of solidarity. Here, social media "wins" by doing its job.

Yet another example: the reportage by "Liquid Sky" on LJ and Twitter during #rustechdel — the American tech entrepreneurs who travelled to Novosibirsk and Moscow last month to discuss the Kremlin's concept of a new Russian Silicon Valley. University authorities locked out students not on a cleared list of insiders; Liquid Sky reported how they were blocked, and how school officials told them to be quiet, or not ask stupid questions. He was able on Twitter and Live Journal to provide an alternative narrative that the Americans could then pick up and amplify. This was a "win," like the vibrant discussions of people in Novosibirsk about why the Silicon Valley should be put in their town — even though they lost that battle apparently.

I don't ask anyone in Russia ever to walk into harm's way. I have had my
colleagues in Russia shot to death in their doorways and I know
first-hand how horrible the power of the state and terrorist non-state
actors are.

But the first way out starts with an admission of the state of affairs.
It starts with a recognition of unfreedom, rather than a deflection of
that awareness, and a claim that we need a special measuring stick to
measure Russia's special path.

And indeed, we get that with what is described on BBC here: "Anton
Nossik, one of Russia's best-known bloggers, was among those who noted
the near-silence of the state-controlled TV channels hours after the
explosions. And we got this with Miriam Elder's reporting, and also with
tweets of various lesser known people marvelling at the lack of news on
official TV." The act of reporting on state silence is itself an act of
civic courage; we could be reprimanded for demanding more
if it were not for the bravery of the people of Iran.

9 responses to “Reply to Alexei Sidorenko of Global Voices”

  1. Alexey Sidorenko Avatar

    Dear Catherine,
    FYI, I don’t moderate GV comments. Someone else does (probably Solana Larsen). It just takes time to check it. I will reply your valuable comment as soon as it is moderated.
    Alex

  2. Alexey Sidorenko Avatar

    and I’m Alexey not Alexei.

  3. Runetecho Avatar

    Dear Catherine,
    My name is Vadim Isakov and I am one of the editors of RuNet Echo project (runetecho.org) at Global Voices Online
    Your comment went to the spam folder and that is why it did not appear on the site immediately. After you mentioned it, I went to search for it and approved it.
    To be fair, Alexey has nothing to do with comment moderation on GV and he cannot be blamed for “unfortunately moderating” comments.
    GV encourages everyone to express their ideas and opinions about the stories that we publish. Unfortunately, an enormous amount of spam and advertisements online disguised as “comments” force us to keep our moderation system. In the future, if you do not see your comments appearing immediately on the GV site, e-mail me directly (my contact info is on RuNet Echo site) and I will personally see that it is published.

  4. Catherine Fitzpatrick Avatar
    Catherine Fitzpatrick

    Runetechno, you’re not getting it.
    This is the Internet.
    Be free.
    I’m not complaining about Alexei taking 8 hours to moderate — and it turns out I’m in the spam file. That happens.
    I’m talking about your unfortunate policy of pre-moderation of comments — period.
    Sorry, but you cannot invoke the problem of “an enormous amount of spam”. Get a good blogging system and spam filter — they’re all over, and even free. I have thousands of people visiting my other site a day and typepad puts in a good spam filter so I don’t have to do too much. It’s not the end of the world to cut out a few Viagra ads and fish a few thing out of the spam filter once every day or so. I’d much rather do that than miss a lively debate.
    I don’t need special attention. I need you to review your polices. Global Voices should not be pre-moderated. Put in a spam filter, let it go.

  5. Catherine Fitzpatrick Avatar

    Um, Alexey, you *are* aware that your name can be transliterated from Russian as either Alexey or Alexei depending on what transliteration system one uses, say the AP style book or New York Times?
    I appreciate that you’ve developed a preference for how your name is transliterated, understood. But it does seem an awful trivial thing to be complaining about.

  6. Mikhail Avatar
    Mikhail

    “From this latest BBC story (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8594375.stm) we see the Russia media — kak ona est’” >>> This is rather interesting but Anton Nossik (aka Dolboeb in LiveJournal) wrote in his blog that he would never give his comments to Russian Service of BBC again and asked them to forget the numbers of his telephones (“Don’t call me again”, 2010-03-29 21:03:00). It seems that BBC simply distorted what he had said and commented to them.
    “Anton Nossik, one of Russia’s best-known bloggers, was among those who noted the near-silence of the state-controlled TV channels hours after the explosions” >>> after that I should not trust this information!!!

  7. Catherine Fitzpatrick Avatar

    There’s a Russian saying for that: “Don’t blame the mirror if you have a crooked face.”
    Sounds like Anton got cold feet after making his debut into international prime-time on BBC.
    I find this all supremely stupid. Anton said — we could all see what he wrote on his blog — that he noted the strange lack of coverage on TV, what they were in fact broadcasting instead of footage about the terakt.
    And that was a valid point and one not only he made. And BBC reiterated it.
    Where’s the distortion? Instead of shouting that we “shouldn’t trust this information,” I’d like both Anton and you to tell us *what* is distorted because a) the comment is true — the TV *was* silent b) it appears to be what he wrote.
    What’s the beef?

  8. Catherine Fitzpatrick Avatar

    In other words, I quite frankly chalk up this backtracking to fear — fear of consequences of seeming to mount not a private journal comment to a group of friends about bad government TV, and not even a famous Russian blogger comment to a group of thousands of viewers — but a comment to the BBC, with millions of viewers, where the government might get angry.
    It’s pretty nasty stuff, the pressure you guys are under.

  9. Vadim Nikitin Avatar

    Dear Catherine,
    Thank you for your spirited comment on my article comparing Fox News and Russia Today:
    http://russia.foreignpolicyblogs.com/2010/03/30/russia-today-the-kremlins-fox-news/
    Because I agree with most of your criticisms of RT, I’m having some trouble connecting them with my piece.
    For example, you somehow accused me of ‘prettifying’ RT and ‘mislead[ing] the public, and challenged me to “explain what about RT’s coverage departed from the official line”.
    But I don’t remember having ever asserted anything of the sort. In fact, I took care to explain that even when RT “quotes and interviews researchers from the liberal-Atlanticist Carnegie Center”, it does this only “when the soundbites are uncontroversial/suit the state narrative”.
    In addition, I stated very clearly that not only is RT “funded by the government and supervised by Russian state media service RIA Novosty” but also that it is “widely considered to be “a Kremlin project to improve Russia’s image around the world”, accused of airing obscure conspiracy theorists to promote an anti-Western agenda”.
    Moreover, all the articles to which I linked were unanimously critical of the channel, so I struggle to see your interpretation of my piece as some sort of RT hagiography.
    As to whether RT has a provocative take, your own (justifiably outraged) comment:
    “Any discussion about human rights activists murdered in the Caucasus like Natalya Estemirova? Any discussion about Kadyrov’s reign of terror? (Lavelle even had the temerity to say “Say what you will about Kadyrov, but it’s quiet down there lately”
    demonstrated that it certainly succeeded in provoking you.
    Remember, RT’s target audience is not Russians, but foreigners; in contrast to the Russian language media which is almost wholly pro-Kremlin, such a viewpoint among the contemporary English language press, which tend to be critical of the Russian state, fits the very definition of an alternative and provocative take.
    True, RT said nothing about Estemirova. But how many mainstream Anglophone outlets have questioned the propriety of nuclear superpowers America and Israel lecturing Iran over the nuclear issue?
    Wherever you stand on this issue, it is an example of RT provoking debate and challenging established Western thinking.
    Yet my main issue with your response is the following:
    You write that “this isn’t a discussion about Fox News. It’s a discussion about RT”. But actually, my article was specifically a discussion of both RT and Fox News, as the headline, “Russia Today: The Kremlin’s Fox News?” unambiguously indicated.
    I also find somewhat puzzling your likening a dispassionate comparison between two networks to a ‘moral equivalence game’, particularly when I made no moral judgements about either one.
    That aside, the central argument of my piece – which I apologise for perhaps not having made very clear – is that Russia Today and Fox News share a common psychological base, or ‘origin myth’: a rather paranoid and besieged view of the world, a desire to correct the record and align it more closely to their respective ideologies.
    I then quote a CJR article in which Terry McDermott describes “a loopy self-absorption to this that is peculiar to Fox and that derives from its origin narrative as the network for the unrepresented, for the outsiders. There is a strain of resentment, of put-upon-ness that pervades almost everything Fox puts on the air”.
    This is followed by my conclusion that “in its obsession with Western ‘misrepresentation’ of a Russia struggling to be heard above the lies and calumny of its foes, McDermott could easily have been describing Russia Today”.
    Note that this last sentence is hardly a rousing endorsement of RT.
    I agree with you that Russia Today does not offer an alternative take from the Kremlin narrative.
    But what both RT and Fox do do is offer an alternative take from what each perceives to be received wisdom; in Fox’s case the enemy is the ‘liberal media’ and for RT it is the ‘Western media’.
    This is my observation. What it is not is a comment on the validity of that take or the veracity of its raison d’etre.
    But if I were to comment, I would say that while both are fairly dubious, there is far less basis for believing in a ‘liberal media bias’ than there is for believing that Western media have generally not treated Russia with the same sort of forced objectivity reserved for other subjects.
    And while a number of very reputable media critics, scholars and theorists (McChesney, Bagdikian, Chomsky and Herman, to name just as few) have convincingly debunked the liberal media fallacy, several media studies have found a predisposition of mainstream Anglophone media towards an anti-Russian slant (see also my analysis of the western media coverage during the Russia-Georgia war:
    http://russia.foreignpolicyblogs.com/2008/08/13/the-cnn-effect-a-tale-of-two-wars/)
    To sum up: is there room among the Western media for a more considered and nuanced Russia narrative, one that could sometimes happen to align with the Kremlin’s interests?
    Do we need more interviews with people like Vanden Heuvel, Fred Weir, Mark Ames, Stephen Cohen and Boris Kagarlitsky in the English-language press? Emphatically so.
    That is why the demise of the Exile was such a tragedy.
    However, as I have emphatically stated in the past, a state-run pro-Kremlin channel is hardly the best way to fill that niche and reverse these negative narratives because the truth should be strong enough to stand up on its own.
    Best wishes,
    Vadim
    http://russia.foreignpolicyblogs.com

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